Bad parenting stories – are these people suffering with Bipolar?

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A quote from a mother not coping with her toddler: “I was so angry with my toddler son when he was tantrumming and refusing to eat, that I grabbed a tuft of hair on the back of his head and pushed his face into his bowl of spaghetti! His face was covered in spaghetti sauce! The look on his face was of total shock but I was still so angry that I did it a second time”!

A group of mothers who had young children got together over coffee one morning. One of them bravely started to confess her worst behaviour with her children and recounted the above situation with her toddler.

Another mother then said “I was so angry with my toddler who was screaming and screaming that I rammed his pushchair into a wall. I knew it wouldn’t hurt him because the front wheels would hit the wall first and I just wanted to give him such a shock that it would stop him from screaming. He wasn’t hurt but I was still raging so I slammed him into the wall again.”

One of the funniest mums then burst out laughing and said “It’s amazing what you will do to get your kids to stop them from their tantrums. My son was throwing a tantrum in the queue in Asda and everyone was staring at him and at me. He was really letting rip. He had done this so many times, and I had tried every parenting tip in the book and nothing I could say or do stopped him from throwing these tantrums. This time, something snapped inside me: I threw myself on the floor beside him and threw my own tantrum. I pounded the floors with my fists, I kicked and kicked my heels into the ground, I thrashed my head back and forth all the time screaming at the top of my voice. Everyone was stunned into silence including my young son who stopped his own tantrum and looked on dumbfounded at his mother throwing her own almighty tantrum! Eventually, he bent down and said in her ear “Mummy, can you get up, you’re embarrasing me!”. She said that he had not thrown a tantrum since! Her strategy worked!!

One of my ex husband’s friends (who is a trained criminal psychologist) related to me the time when one of her babies had been screaming for such a long time that she could no longer tolerate the sound. She went into the baby’s room and thumped the pillow a few inches from her child’s head with frustration. She said she thumped it several times til she had got her rage out of her. She said that she did this because she was so enraged with her baby’s screams that she had wanted to hit her child; this was the closest she came….

All these women are from very good, solid, middle-class homes, with educated, profesionally qualified mothers….They are not from impoverished, drug/alcohol addicted backgrounds and all of them live in comfort with the average amount of stress.

These are all true stories from friends I know in Kingston. None of them have Bipolar; in fact, none of them have been diagnosed with having any form of mental disturbance. None of them have had their children taken from them. During this coffee morning, all the mothers there were laughing at the stories and thanking each other for their honesty. Each mother there said that they had done simarly awful things when they have been at their wits end with their children.

I’m not conding these mothers’ behaviour, nor am I saying that their treatment of their children is acceptable or normal. I was shocked to hear these things yet, if I’m honest, also strangely comforted to hear that other mother’s lose it with their kids too at times.

I haven’t done any of these things and yet I’m the one who’s been told that, because I have Bipolar, I am more at risk of harming my children. None of these mum’s have been told that they have something wrong with them.

So what are the worst things I’ve done as a parent?  I’ll be honest here, painful as it is and you can all be judge and jury as to whether the things I’ve done are so unusual in parenting experiences that the children shouldn’t be with me.

When my eldest daughter was a baby, she screamed so much one night that I screamed back with all my might. I didn’t shake her or hit her, I just screamed too. Then I put her in her cot (gently) and left the room, slamming the door and phoned my mum sobbing with frustration feeling a total failure and feeling terrible for shouting at my baby who, after all, was only being a baby.

When she was a toddler and I had my second son who was only a few months old, all of us came down with a bad bug. Both she and my son were waking me several times a night; she with her illness, he to feed every hour and a half (breastfeeding) and me with my chest infection. I had just fallen pregnant with our third child and was exhausted from the first few weeks of pregnancy as well as from looking after a 2 year old, a 6 month old baby and my third on the way. I felt exhausted, ill, feverish, resentful, desperate…One morning, at around 6am she woke up and threw an almighty tantrum on the stairs. Her tantrums often lasted for an hour at a time. My son then woke up wanting to be fed. My husband wasn’t there to help and my mother was just about waking up in bed. I was trying to cope with all this on my own. I lost it with her. I picked her up roughly and put her in the “time out” place which was our downstairs loo, yelled at her to stay in there until she stopped tantrumming and slammed the door. I was so enraged that I thumped the door (I didn’t hit my daughter at all). Unfortunately, the bit of the door that I hit was glass and I lacerated the tendons in my hand and had to undergo plastic surgery to my hand. My daugher, understandably, was totally shaken by the experience of watching her mother put her hand through the door.

When I was taken to hospital for my hand, the admission nurse asked whether I was post natally depressed. I said I wasn’t sure. I was then assessed and my reading for post natal depression was high and a course of anti-depressants were prescribed.

Social services were informed and my daughter was placed on the child protection register. The health visitor said that I was considered to not be a cause for serious concern because I had chosen to hurt myself in anger rather than hurt my child. I was horrified that I had lost control of my temper in that way. It took my daughter a few weeks before she was back to her normal self.

That’s the worst thing I’ve done to my children.

Other things have included: being so angry with them all, that I shut the door to the house (didn’t lock it) and stormed outside to the end of our drive (about 3 metres in length) and sat in my car with a cup of coffee for 15 minutes to calm down. I could see the house from my car window so I could ensure that they didn’t come out and nobody went in. The children were 8, 6 and 5 at the time. This happened once in total – never again.

I’ve smacked my children when they were toddlers: my eldest daugter when she was a toddler got smacked around 4 times (a smack – not hard hitting), my son around 3 times and my youngest daughter around 2 times. I quickly learnt that smacking ( although highly endorsed by my parents generation and indeed our school system whilst I was still at school where they had the cane), doesn’t work. All it does is to encourage the children to hit each other and others. So I don’t smack. I now resort to shouting when I lose my cool, walking out of the room, slamming doors and being very grumpy.

I have been learning increasingly effective parenting strategies though and gradually I’ve been increasingly able to stop shouting (not 100% yet!) and to walk away when I feel the temperature rising.

According to my exhusband and the Judge, I have also hurt them emotionally by telling them too much about the Court case. Our children were living with my ex husband and I all through the 18 months of litigation and during the actual 10 day High Court hearing. Every day during that Court case, my exhusband and I left the house, caught the train and a taxi and went to the High Court and then came home again the same night. The children knew that we were going to court every day. They knew that the CAFCASS officer had come to see them because they were deciding who the children should live with. They knew that my exhusband was saying that I wasn’t well enough to look after them.

Unsurprisingly, they asked questions – intelligent, perceptive, direct, uncomrpomising questions and asked me to be honest with them in giving the answers. I tried not to give them too much unecessary and upsetting detail, but according to the Judge, I gave them too much information which has caused them distress. I’m not sure how she concluded this given that she hasn’t even met the children, nor was she present to hear the conversation, nor was it recorded…..My children still say that they want me to tell them honestly when they ask questions. I’ve talked with 3 psychologists about how to answer these questions without damaging them emotionally or psychologically, read numerous books on divorce for guidance but apparently I got it wrong.

In short, I have never broken any bones, stubbed out cigarettes, been drunk or on drugs whilst looking after them, left them in the house on their own (which both my ex husband and various nannies have done), not left them in a car on their own (apart from in the garage forecourt whilst paying for petrol), not lost them whilst taking them out, not starved them…….any other thing that I’ve overlooked?

Oh yes there is! I was so cross with them one day that I wrote a long letter describing how I hated their behaviour when they were being so naughty. I described that I felt like hitting them (but stressed that I didn’t do so), that I was such a bad mother, that I was a failure etc. In fact, writing out all the things I was feeling was following the advice of my psychologist who told me that one of the most effective ways to deal with anger is to write it all down on a piece of paper and then throw that piece of paper away. Unfortunately, I didn’t throw it away – my husband found it and used it in Court as evidence that I was an appalling parent.

Yet the two incidents I describe above – the hand through the window and going out to my car for a coffee were brought up in court as classic examples of why I shouldn’t be allowed to parent my children. The letter merely showed as concrete evidence that I was too psychologically disturbed to parent the children.

The fact that my ex husband repeatedly smacked the children when we were married and still does (regularly, I’m told by my children) doesn’t seem to matter. The fact that the CAFCASS report states that my youngest daughter is frightened of him because “he picks me up by my middle and throws me on the bed when he’s angry with me”, doesn’t seem to matter. The fact that he has often shouted at them, threatened them physically, shaken them, slammed the brakes on the car yelling at them that he will “put them out on the pavement” unless they stop screaming, doesn’t seem to matter. The other emotional/psychological things he says and does all don’t seem to matter either.

The fact that my children are scared of him doesn’t seem to matter. They are scared that he will hit them, they are scared that he won’t take their fears seriously and so don’t tell him when they are upset about something, they are scared that he will continue to hurt me. In fact, it was the children who told me that I should go to the Domestic Violence unit because they read the leaflet in the doctor’s surgery and said “Mummy, you should go and talk to these people, because that (the violence) is exactly what daddy’s doing to you.” The fact that the children have witnessed him hitting me and threatening to hit me and shaking me whilst swearing at me and shouting, doesn’t seem to matter. The fact that he hid a knife under his bed together with his porn magazines and videos, doesn’t seem to matter. The fact that, whilst the children are still living with him, he has gone out to lap dancing bars and come home very drunk, doesn’t seem to matter. The fact that he has left the children in the house on their own, doesn’t seem to matter.

Apparently, he’s the “well” one with no mental or psychological problems and is a ”fit” parent, but I’m not.  

Well, what do you all think? Are these things I’ve done appallingly bad? Am I misguided in thinking that I am a capable parent?

Let me know you’re honest thoughts and please do share your worst parenting stories or those of a friend – anonymously – and maybe a picture can emerge of what range of parenting misdemeanors are sufficient evidence of such bad parenting that the children should be taken away from a Bipolar parent…..

Phew! That was brave of me to share those things….

 

My children are telling me that their father is hitting/smacking them when they are with him. They tell me that this is happening around twice a week.

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9 Responses to “Bad parenting stories – are these people suffering with Bipolar?”
  1. nickry says:

    I am in a crap situation at the moment i have fallenn prey to the soicla services so much so that my daughter is now living 300 miloes away in devon and if i get her back then social services will get an care order. She is in devon with my sister and the want to have parantal rights over her. She is 10 and i have brought her up on my own for all that time social services now feel i am unfit due to a depressive episode which i found coping duifficult i went to them for help and they analysed every bad thing i had done in my life then had a case coference with people i had never net and decided i was unfit to care for my child.

  2. Marie says:

    Hello there Sandee. I always appreciate someone taking the time to add to my blog with their own heart-rending stories. I am astounded to hear that you were able to have one daughter and not your other children simply because one father believed you to be a good mother but the other father didn’t!! This just shows that it is a matter of perception rather than fact; if the facts of your diagnosis, medication and compliance haven’t changed then it can only be the perception that has changed in the eyes of one or two people! That is just extraordinary and I feel so cross on your behalf.
    Yes, I agree that there is an assumption/attitude/perception that having a mental illness = mental incapacity and poor judgement. Sure, some people will suffer from reduced capacity to think clearly and exercise poor judgement, but again the question is: “Who determines what constitutes “poor judgement” and how this is measured against another person’s judgement”?
    It seems clearer and clearer to me that a person’s ability to parent is determined by a subjective judgement on the part of the Judge/family/ex partner, than by any empirical, objective evidence. This cannot continue and must be challenged.
    I’m grateful to you for encouraging me to speak my inner thoughts and feelings as it is a hard thing to do; I am constantly afraid that people will use this opening up as further evidence that I am “crazy and unstable” but I simply cannot stay silent about it as I feel that people need to know the emotional consequences both for the children and the mother. I’m so touched that it has helped you and that my writing has struck a chord with you albeit that it’s a painful chord.
    Take care and keep strong.
    Marie

  3. Sandee in Chicago says:

    I want to thank you for your absolute bravery in telling your story. I, too, lost my child to my ex partially because I am Bi-Polar. My love letters, my emails, even just simple notes I left in his lunches all became evidence in court as to what an awful parent I am. I felt, and still feel, so utterly betrayed. I’ve been diagnosed Bi-Polar for about 15 years. My oldest child is 8. I’ve also been very serious in taking care of myself and treating the illness. No less serious than if I had cancer or diabetes. I see my doctors, take my medications, and do whatever is required of me to make it through each day. Yes, some days are better than others. Of course. But, the good days far out number the bad, and, really, the bad days are not as awful as one might think. I believe there is a common belief out there that if someone has a mental illness, it is immediately assumed they also have a diminished mental capacity. I am appalled that this image continues to this day, inspite of evidence to the contrary. It is my belief that this assumption led to my losing custody of my child. Oddly, I was allowed to maintain custody of my eldest child as she was from a different father. He believes me a good parent and has never challenged that. How is it that the court could ignore that???
    There IS an enourmous bias out there against individuals who suffer from mental illness. More so for MOTHERS who suffer from them. It’s a sad statement about how little we truly have advanced as a society.
    I applaud you for putting yourself in the light and risking the scrutiny of the public eye. Your “Ghost” entry was like reading my heart’s longing on paper.
    Thank you again. You made me feel a little less alone and a little more human.

  4. nasda says:

    my mum keep hitting me all the time and all the other kids mum doesnt hit thier children

  5. Mary says:

    I can totally relate to your situation. I am a new mom, my son is a year old now. I was diagnosed as bi polar as a teenager 8 years ago, but never really believed something was wrong with me.Four years ago I met my husband and he encoraged me to give it a try without Depakote and Seroquel. I have been med free for 3+ years and coping much better than before. Having my son has been wonderful and hard all at the same time. Not unlike any other new mom I have had some anxiety as to weither or not I am doing a good job parenting him. I feel like because of my previous diagnosses I have to exceed expectations so no one has room to accuse me of being a bad mom. My son is a thriving, active, happy and healthy boy. But anytime I tell my husband I am in need of a break or some help with him because I feel overwhelmed he throws the “crazy”card. It is NORMAL to feel that way when a little person is completely dependent on you! Not to mention while breastfeeding and having all of the hormonal fluxes associated with childbirth too! I am learning to separate my fears of being a bad mom because I may be bipolar from the reality that life is difficult, and sometimes the “normal” response to that is to freak out a little! It is okay to be human and make mistakes. Losing your temper and raising your voice at a child may not be the ideal response but it is not going to permanently scar them. Sitting in a car while you can still see them to insure their safety sounds like a rational and good idea that I may steal and use myself one day!
    As far as confessing bad parenting stories, here is mine…. My little boy never slept through the night for the first 11 months of his life. My husband works nights and I was absolutely exhausted after waking every 2 hours with him. One night he would not go back to sleep. Nothing worked. I nursed him (again!) while sobbing out of sheer frustration and being so tired I could not hold up my head. So at my wits end I laid my 4 month old in his crib turned on his light and yelled at him for about 3 minutes. Did it work? No, he was still awake and so was I… but after that I was able to pick him back up and give him the attention he was asking for. The next morning he smiled and loved me just the same. I think there is a good reason that we cannot remember things from the early years of our lives…it leaves room for our parents to make mistakes but keep on learning how to love and nurture us without being rejected or judged by their kids. Don’t beat yorself up for being who you are, a compassionate loving mom who happens to be bipolar. Don’t listen to others judgement of you. I am sorry that the stigma associated with our illness has affected your life like this. I hope that your children are given back to you full time soon. It sounds to me like you are on the right path to making that happen!

  6. Marie says:

    Hi Rachel. Thanks for taking the time to share your view.
    I totally agree with your sentiment that, unless you’ve looked after 3 (or more) children of a young age (especially if they are close together in age – I had 3 in 3 years) then no-one can truly say what it’s like. I have lots of friends who only started with 1 or 2 children and then went on to have a third. All of them without exception, said that they weren’t prepared for how much harder it is when you add in that third child.
    Add to that the fact that one of them has a serious illness and it gets even harder….
    Add to that the fact that you are suffering with depression, and it is even harder.
    If you then have an understanding spouse, who helps, supports, encourages and is actively involved in the raising of the children, then you are likely to be able to manage…
    I’m very glad for you that your husband is supportive. Luckily for me I now have a wonderfully supportive, kind, understanding partner who is an absolute star. He has made a huge difference to my life by being so kind to me and the children….
    I just hope that my children will be able to get through this separation from their mum and get to be an age where the courts will ask them how their mum copes rather than listening to people who haven’t got a clue whether I am a “good” parent or a “bad” one. So far they have told me that they don’t see anything wrong with the way I parent and tell me that they love me to bits…..so I’m very lucky to have their support too.

    I think having depression can often make us into much more understanding, compassionate and less judgemental people as we understand what it’s like to struggle at times and not always being able to cope they way we would like to. Our children will benefit from witnessing that compassion towards others and will also learn to be more compassionate themselves. Every cloud has a silver lining and all that…..

    Good luck with your own parenting.

  7. rachel jeffery says:

    I have depression and have often struggled to look after my 3 children,luckily I have a really understanding husband.I think sometimes i am more understanding because of my mental illness,but other things I’m not so good at.Unless u have looked after 3 children of similar age u can’t really understand fully the pressure this puts on a person whether they r mentally ill or not.Anyway who says what is normal or not,often its people who don’t have any real experience of looking after several children who r the harshest critics. I’m sorry your x is such an asshole,sory i don’t usually swear,but i think u deserve more understanding.goodluck.U deserve to have your children close to u.

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